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Filed Under (familia, humor) by Arjewtino on 26-04-2007

Men are weird.

We have , weird sports allegiances, and weird senses of humor. We are weird in ways that women are not.

We are so weird, in fact, that we actually joke about banging our friends’ moms. Banging. Our friends’. Moms.

A typical conversation between two guy friends might go like this:

Guy #1: I’m so tired.
Guy #2: That’s not what your mom said last night.

Since each of us is eternally a mama’s boy and takes offense to the slightest insult of our maternal makers, I find mom-bashing humor particularly mystifying. And though it might differ among cultures, it is typically acceptable to most men.

But women are different. Women will never say, “That’s not what your dad said last night” to each other nor call each other “fatherfuckers”. Women don’t have words like FILF and find even the smallest implication of their dads as sexual vomit-inducing.

I asked The Princess one night why this phenomenon exists for men and not for women and why she’s never joked to a female friend about banging her dad. She responded with one word: “Gross.”

I continued my research by e-mailing Gene Weingarten, the Washington Post humor columnist and self-described arbiter of all humor, whose returned this week after a long hiatus.

This was my question:

“Despite the prevalence of men joking through implication and innuendo that they’ve had sex with their friends’ moms, why don’t women equally (1) make the same kind of jokes and (2) find it gross that men do?”

Gene responded:

“Hm. I can’t help you. I am good friends with a twentysomething woman who regularly informs me that she has had sex with my mother. My mother is dead. This does not deter her.”

If even the mighty Gene Weingarten doesn’t know, there might not be an answer. Maybe women take these jokes too literally. Maybe the “Daddy’s little girl” icon is too embedded in their brains to be able to suggest — even humorously — their friends’ fathers are sexual beings. I don’t know.

I hope someone has an answer for me.

And no mom jokes. I’m looking at you, GoPats.

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Comments

on 26 April, 2007 at 9:37 am #

you answered your own question in the first sentence of your post:

Men are weird.


Average Jane on 26 April, 2007 at 9:44 am #

I actually have no comment. Shocking, isn’t it?

But if I have a sheep for every time I “didn’t get” why a man said something, I’d be set for sweaters for life. And mutton chops. And I’d probably start “baaa-ing”.


Torre, I'll have fries with that on 26 April, 2007 at 9:45 am #

The reason why we make fun of mothers is that growing up, our first sexual fantasies were about our friend’s mothers. My friend Jon, for example, had a superhot mom who was always depressed and wore lots of bathrobes around the house and passed out cause of all the booze and valium. And sometimes the robe would open and I’d get to see boobs.

That was hot…

Point being, it’s our first sexual fantasy and we ain’t letting go of it, even as our friend’s moms get old and/or dead.

It’s a like a fart. It’s always funny, even if it’s offensive (to women).


on 26 April, 2007 at 9:47 am #

Oh c’mon. American Beauty. The phenomenon of girl/friend’s father must be out there. Movies have never lied to me before.

Your mom is easier than…

I mean, saying “your mom” is easier than saying “your dad.” Your mom just rolls off the tongue.


on 26 April, 2007 at 9:48 am #

The reason the maternal jokes are funny is that no one seriously believes that it could happen. But with father jokes? If some 20 something nubile girl offerred your old, wrinkled self some hot young tang you know you wouldn’t turn it down. Unless you were a priest, in which case you’d be into young boys instead of young girls. So maybe that’s why women don’t joke about it. Because they know that someone would take them up on it.


Torre, I'll have fries with that on 26 April, 2007 at 9:53 am #

It could never happen? Mr. Ninja, sir, there are thousands of hours of filmed sex acts devoted to the MILF/GILF phenominon. It happens somewhere, and not just in the valley - near arjewtino’s childhood home - where they made the porn.


on 26 April, 2007 at 10:06 am #

i think homeimprovementninja is totally right on this one! its much too possible for the yourdad jokes to be/come true. which is disturbing for any daddysgirl to hear. also FILF sounds/looks like filth and that makes it confusing.


on 26 April, 2007 at 10:12 am #

I’m sorry… i’m still stuck on FILF.

hahahahaha.


on 26 April, 2007 at 10:16 am #

I have friends who think my Dad’s hot. I’m severely disturbed by that.

Then again, I know guys (Bergle included) who have hot moms and I think that’s the funniest thing in the world. Have I been brainwashed as well?


sparkles anon! on 26 April, 2007 at 10:18 am #

Oh no, there IS such a thing as a DILF. Hello, see Brad Pitt.


on 26 April, 2007 at 10:27 am #

Having a milf for mom really sucks. My brother’s friends have made jokes like that many times. The bad part is, I know they are 75% serious.
When someone talks about banging your mom, you feel a mixture of rage and disgust.
That’s my mom! My sweet, innocent mom! She’s not a sexual being! She did get pregnant three times…..but that’s besides the point!


on 26 April, 2007 at 10:28 am #

I think you’re straying off the point my friend. The issue isn’t that there are or are not fathers worthy of banging, but instead that women don’t make the “I banged/want to bang/will bang your dad” jokes.

Carry on.


on 26 April, 2007 at 10:30 am #

I got to your blog via INPY and Candy Sandwich. I cried laughing reading your kid tourist post…

I learned at a young age that any old man trying to make a move on you is skeevy. Perhaps that’s why no FILF phenomenon: we are socialized to think that’s just. So. Wrong.

Movies always made it seem like hott moms were actually helping young men learn about the world…


DF on 26 April, 2007 at 10:30 am #

The stigma associated with being a promiscuous woman is an obstacle to jokes that express explicit desires and sexual conquest. In addition, it is far more likely that a young woman can realize her fling than a young man with an eye for the MILF next door - this was ‘ninja’s very valid point.


freckledk on 26 April, 2007 at 10:31 am #

I was speaking to a female coworker this morning, while looking at a report. She exclaimed, “Wow! It’s so long.” And, I swear to God, I had to bite my tongue to keep from saying, “That’s what she said.”

We’re weird too. And filthy. Just not when it comes to our girlfriend’s fathers. I wish I could tell you why, but I don’t know the answer myself.


hermanita on 26 April, 2007 at 10:35 am #

I think it’s because men like to compete – and talking shit to each other is one of their disturbing ways of creating bonds. And because men have profound relationships with their mothers & feel the need to protect them, it’s the harshest target.

But it’s not always sexual connotations… you guys have fat, stupid, ugly, and poor mom “jokes,” it’s just that the sexual implications REALLY gets a rise out of the other person – which makes the jokester feel like the winner.

Bottom line – we women demonstrate our connection differently. We hug. We gossip. We drink wine. We bond without talking shit about each other’s family members (brothers excluded).


dagny taggart on 26 April, 2007 at 10:49 am #

I am a Weingarten fan, as well. And while I don’t necessarily imply sex acts when I use it, the phrase “your mom’s a ______” has been known to escape my lips more than once.

It flows much more nicely than “your dad”. But there’s always “so’s your old man” if you’re really pressed.


on 26 April, 2007 at 11:04 am #

I’ve made those jokes. But they never sound quite right. I’m tempted to construct some sort of theory based on gender-based power binaries, but my brain is a little slow today. Let me ponder this for a second and get back to you…


on 26 April, 2007 at 11:13 am #

Dads are already jokes. In every movie, in every sitcom, dad is the fumbling idiot. Making jokes about dad isn’t shocking to anyone. The thing that makes mom jokes sting is the seeming sacriledge of it. It’s saying that your mom is easy. I don’t think that, since he’s a man, calling someone’s dad easy would be shocking. I agree with HIN on that point.

Similarly, not many people claim that their mom can beat up your mom. It just doesn’t fit.

I can’t believe I-66 said, “Your mom just rolls off the tongue,” and nobody said anything. Asleep at the wheel, all of you.


Horizontal on 26 April, 2007 at 11:37 am #

It can all be boiled down to one simple fact: Women don’t have the jerk gene.

It’s the same gene that causes hysterical laughter while watching the Three Stooges. I’ve never seen a woman laughing at Moe leading Curly around with his nose in a monkey wrench.

We’re imbeciles.


on 26 April, 2007 at 11:39 am #

And the clock stops at 1 hour, 26 minutes, before anyone said anything about that. I had 33 minutes in the office pool.

Your mom had 22 minutes.


Arod's HGH injections are working on 26 April, 2007 at 12:07 pm #

Women find Ellen DeGeneris funny, Oprah interesting and Rachel Ray worthy of a magazine, TV show and line of tampons.

Some men might laugh at physical comedy, but goddamn it, some women cry watching commercials.

I know they do cause I had to hand your mom tissues last night.


on 26 April, 2007 at 12:13 pm #

I had your mom in the office pool.


on 26 April, 2007 at 12:17 pm #

Speaking of phyiscal comedy:

I told someone once that my favorite scene in “Dumb and Dumber” was the part where Jeff Daniels pegs whatsername in the face with a snowball. I howl every single time I watch it. I chuckle thinking about it now, and am glad the office is relatively empty at the moment.

The person responded by calling me a misogynist.

It may come as a shock to know that this person was a woman.


MJ on 26 April, 2007 at 1:27 pm #

last year i was at a baseball game where my team lost. as we were leaving three punky 16 year olds tried to heckle us about our loss. in turn, we (four girls) made a joke about their mothers; they were stunned and completely silenced.

i think they learned not to mess with red sox fans, especially if you’re cheering for the orioles….


on 26 April, 2007 at 2:45 pm #

Yeah - DILF is very common among the gays. Seeing hot young dads out with their kids, myself or any of my friends might quip, oh that DILF is hot. Again, I think someone said it before…comes down to something you cannot have. Cute straight men who are spending time with their kids…totally hot. Women don’t say those types of things because its likely if they really wanted it, they could have it since men are pigs.


on 26 April, 2007 at 2:49 pm #

That kind of humor is why there’s a movie called “Y tu mamá también”. Only there they actually DO do it. The funny thing is, though, that I think Mexico is the one place that kind of a joke does not fly, other than in the movie. I’ve never heard a Mexican friend do that joke (and no, it’s not because they don’t tell them when I’m around. Being “one more of the guys” makes me privvy to many, many gross jokes).


Platypus on 26 April, 2007 at 3:02 pm #

Did you hear the one about Arjewtino’s mom and the three easter eggs?

I’ll spare you the joke, but each one of them had a colourful array of jelly beans in it…

Marvelous!


on 26 April, 2007 at 6:17 pm #

It’s one of my goals in life to be a MILF.


on 27 April, 2007 at 7:25 am #

I always make jokes about banging my friends’ dads. In fact, the more uncomfortable it makes them, the more likely I am to make the joke.

And I actually did kiss one of my friend’s dads. In my defense, he was way young to have a kid in high school, and I was already in college. Oh, and he was totally hot and recently divorced from my friend’s mom who was a total nut job. I saw it as community service with a reward.


on 27 April, 2007 at 12:26 pm #

Uhm helloooo. I make jokes about having sex with fathers alll the time. I call them “DILFs” and I KNOW I’ve made blog posts about them.

I just wouldn’t want to have sex with any of my friends’ dads cause they’re ugly. And fat. No thanks.


on 27 April, 2007 at 5:36 pm #

I make those jokes all the time.

And, haven’t you heard the album “Fatherfucker” by Peaches?


Phil on 28 April, 2007 at 7:59 am #

I am going to teach my daughters “father-sex” jokes right now…I don’t want them left behind..


Phil on 28 April, 2007 at 7:59 am #

I am kidding and you all are SICK.


on 30 April, 2007 at 8:38 pm #

Weird little fact: In a class I took on Rhetoric in American Public Address at GWU (Go Colonials!), the professor had a special lecture in which he discussed the use of profanity in speeches. He would play part of a speech by Eldridge Cleaver where he talks about how the use of the phrase “motherfucker” is extremely insulting in the black community because of the powerful role that the mother has in the household.

Also in the Latino community…big time.


Brett on 9 May, 2007 at 8:12 pm #

In normal situations, guys don’t talk about how each other is feeling or what each other is thinking about. Guys communicate in casual situations by ripping on each other. It’s not always about sexual jokes (though most of us still do have a side left over from the playground in grade school that thinks dick and fart jokes are hilarious). Someone made the point that a lot of mom jokes aren’t sexual at all, it’s just that the sexual jokes sometimes carry the biggest punch. That’s another thing: guys LOVE to compete. It’s something buried deep in our genes, I don’t know. I work with a group of guys who (I think) all secretly pride themselves on who can come up with the best insult every day. It’s funny.

I think it also should be noted that (unless they’re total assholes) guys won’t make these jokes to someone that they don’t think won’t be able to play along. You’re not going to go up to a young kid or your-neighbor-who-you-don’t-know-that-well and tell him that you banged his mom. That ain’t cool!

On a related note, maybe that’s why girls don’t joke like that with each other - they can’t “play fight” without it turning into a real fight. Maybe that’s the reason!

Besides being the most civilized of the species, of course.


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